William Evmur replied to the topic 'Charles Haddon Spurgeon' in the forum. 6 months ago

I am glad to see you support the BGEA about who you must have similar reservations.

Joseph Prince I have noticed is quite sound in Grace doctrines but his methodology can veer slightly toward Arminianism.

You put your finger on precisely what is wrong in the charismatic world. They are thoroughly Arminian almost to a man. There are some hopeful signs of which Joseph Prince is one.

Arminianism always puts faith first, and especially faith acts. The cart is placed before the horse and despite all the huffing and puffing and shouting and jumping up and down the thing refuses to budge.

By grace are we saved through faith and that no of ourselves. But as you know even when we know this for doctrine it is a discipline we spend our lives learning to put into practice.

My complaint against the Reformed crowd [and I am Reformed] is that stand on the sidelines with bitter criticism and fold their arms and do nothing. I never met a Calvinist who did not acknowledge that the Holy Ghost is working among the Pentecostals and Charismatics.

What is needed is their doctrines or some of them to be applied to the issues.


William Evmur replied to the topic 'Charles Haddon Spurgeon' in the forum. 6 months ago

I also love the preaching of Joseph Prince .... there needs to be a deeper conversation about what is wrong about the Charismatic movement [and what is right about it] than is currently to be had among the Free grace believers.


William Evmur created a new topic ' Charles Haddon Spurgeon' in the forum. 6 months ago

Not long after I was saved I was working in a christian detox centre, it was a non denomination effort helping people with drink or drug abuse problems. When I came to leave a brother who had been blest with our fellowship pressed into my hands a copy of C.H.Spurgeon's " An all round ministery." He made me to promise to read at least 5 pages before putting it aside.

I have been reading C.H.Spurgeon ever since :) I have read many volumes of his Metropolitan Sermons and most every other books he wrote over the years, Spurgeon grounded in my faith, he gave me ballast for my ship.

I did not become a Calvinist and am not now a Calvinist but I did become a believer in Free sovereign grace as opposed to Arminian free will doctrine. I totally recommend the sermons of C.H.Spurgeon, he is not named among the theologians but he is recognised by them.


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Of course I have read Revelations and Daniel, prayerfully and with love. But I think so very many folks go astray sometimes wildly by using these books as their main base for interpreting prophecy. They are books purposely written to cammouflage the truth as it were from the natural mind, i.e. they are apocalyptic.

All my prophetic views have been drawn from the open scriptures and rather than making the open scriptures fit in [for there ought be no disagreement of doctrine] with Revelations I make Revelations or more properly The Revelation [of Jesus Christ] fit in with the open scriptures

So many are sure that Antichrist is to be revealed when the church is taken away and with them they suppose the Holy Spirit, But does the bible support this?

Tribulation is not God's wrath, tribulation comes from man, it is persecution, the Great Tribulation is the great end times persecution we are warned about and it's main prosecutor will be Antichrist "who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped ... " He will seek to destroy every vistage and sign of religion, which makes it difficult to see how he can be a Pope, although I believe he will usurp the RCC and us it for his purpose.

For 3 and1/2 years he will have a pact with Israel who under their false prophet will be intent on building the temple in Jerusalem, when the temple is built he will gather the armies of the world and invade Jerusalem and the temple. He is slain in the temple by the returning Lord.

So you see that the returning Lord and the Rapture is the end of Antichrist's career not the beginning.

Folks are so concerned to be focused on the Rapture but before the Rapture comes the rebellion and the man of rebellion will be revealed.The church is not prepared for the great end time persecution, not even nearly.

Revelations.7vs 9 and vs 13- 14
After this I beheld and lo a great multitude which no man could number of all nations and kindreds and people and tongues stood before the throne and before the Lamb clothed with white robes and palms in their hands.

....and one of the elders answered unto me saying unto me "what are these which are arrayed in white robes and whence came they?" 14. and I said unto him "Sir thou knowest" and he said to me "these are they which came out of great tribulation and have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb"

These I believe are end times martyrs not the Raptured church.


I seem to be the only one who believes this, I think of myself as an orthodox believer I believe in the consensus of truly born again brethren making allowances for divergence of streams i.e Free Grace believers vs Freewill believers.

The consensus seems to be that in the Great Trib the Jews can expect to be pounded yet again, but what does the scripture say?

If it is accepted that the Great Tribulation is also known as the time Jacob's Trouble" then there is only one place to look. Jeremiah 30. the only time the term is used.

Jeremiah 30. vs.3-11
For lo the days come saith the Lord that I will bring again the captivity of My people Israel and Judah saith the Lord and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers and they shall possess it.
And these are the words that the Lord spake concerning Israel and Judah.

For thus saith the Lord, we have heard a voice of trembling, of fear and not of peace.

Ask ye now and see whether a man doth travail with child? Wherefore do I see every man with his hands as a woman in travail and all faces turned to paleness.

Alas! for that day is is great so that none is like it, it is even the time of Jacob's trouble BUT
BUT he shall be saved out of it.

For it shall come to pass in that day saith the Lord of hosts that I will break his yoke from off his neck and will burst thy bonds and stragers will no more serve themselves of him

But they shall serve the Lord their God and David their King whom I shall raise up unto them.

THEREFORE FEAR YE NOT o My servant Jacob saith the Lord NEITHER BE DISMAYED o Israel for lo I will save thee from afar and thy seed from the land of their captivity and Jacob shall return and SHALL BE AT REST and BE QUIET and NONE SHALL MAKE HIM AFRAID.

For I am with thee saith the Lord to SAVE THEE though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee yet will I not make a full end of thee but I will correct thee in measure and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.